Striker drugs or terrain modulation?

Here in Minnesota, I try to escape the role of a patient advocate for a few hours and recapture my own reality. Often I go into the Minneapolis Institute of Art, a very deep and broad collection that takes you into unexpected realms. The museum is always near empty. I am not complaining about this, but it does say something about the larger "culture" in which we live.

I have many favorites here and I visit them each time as if they were old friends, which indeed they are. The above portrait by Goya is high on my "favorites list" and represents for me what doctoring is about - in this age or any age.

It is entitled "Self-portrait with Dr. Arrieta". Goya painted it in 1820 in appreciation of his physician, who saved his life. The inscription at the bottom, painted in oil paint, reads, "Goya gives thanks to his friend Arrieta for the expert care with which he saved his life from an acute and dangerous illness which he suffered at the close of the year 1819 when he was seventy-three years old. He painted it in 1820."

This painting speaks for itself - with subtleties that reveal themselves on close and repeated viewing. In this world of ME/CFS, there are a number of doctors who match Goya's idea of Dr. Arrieta, both for skill and devotion. One of them is Dr. Dan Peterson, who was recently interviewed by Debra Waroff on ME/CFS Alert. As quickly as this twenty-minute video appeared on the internet, it disappeared - for unknown reasons. ProHealth has a written transcript of the interview here.

I stood by chance in a room with Dr. Peterson at the IACFS/ME conference in Reno, NV, in 2009, and witnessed an outpouring of love for this physician from his patients. It was a powerful moment, perhaps the most moving public testament that I have ever seen. Since then I have had the opportunity on a number of occasions to see Dr. Peterson making presentations and lobbying for more research into this nasty illness, ME/CFS.

At the FDA meeting this spring in Bethesda I stumbled into the room where Dr. Peterson was sponsoring, along with Simmaron Research, a small, informal but powerful roundtable discussion regarding treatment. Other physicians were present, including Dr. Nancy Klimas and Dr. Derek Enlander, both of whom provide support and care in the old-fashioned manner of Goya's Dr. Arrieta. The discussions were both lively and informative and more interaction between well-meaning clinicians should be taking place. This specific (pre-FDA meeting) gathering was entirely the result of Dr. Peterson's effort, spending his own time and money to make this happen. Dr. Peterson is a generous soul.

In recent years Dr. Peterson has reached out to establish research and treatment relationships with many other people, most noteworthy being Dr. Andy Kogelnik of the Open Medicine Institute. This looks to be a fruitful collaboration.

I have witnessed similar but larger discussion formats instituted by InvestinME each year now, where they gather a large group of researchers and physicians in one room to have day-long discussions.

In March, Dr. Peterson made a presentation of a clinical study of his use of Vistide in ME/CFS. An article on the use of this drug by Cort Johnson can be found here. Vistide is a heavy-duty antiviral drug that needs to be carefully managed. Dr. Peterson has by far and away the most experience with this drug - and also with Ampligen. Dr. Peterson uses other modalities, also that are in the category of what I would call "striker drugs". They are designed to knock the hell out of a target and allow (or hope to allow) the immune system to get back on top of whatever. I myself have met a number of individuals who have gone through Dr. Peterson's treatments and come out the other side being able to build a better life. On the other hand, I wonder how many patients "blow out" on his treatments?

In looking at Debra Waroff's fine interview I found myself wanting to ask how Dr. Peterson determines that a particular patient would qualify for treatment with Vistide - or for that matter with Ampligen? He obviously makes his decision based on viral titers and other tests - and on his clinical judgement. The specifics interest me.

It is noteworthy that in this short interview Dr. Peterson does not speak of lyme disease or its coinfections, nor does he address mycoplasmas or mycotoxins.

Debra Waroff speaks of Dr. Peterson as the "Father of CFS". In this she is partially correct, as there were two fathers of CFS - the other being Dr. Paul Cheney. Each of these physicians has continued, in straight-line fashion, their separate pursuits of the diagnosis and treatment of this illness. The manner in which they diverge in their approach is worth noting, as their angles of approach are so different and almost seem unbridgeable. One might even believe that they are dealing with two different illnesses. And yet their patient cohorts must be similar, both involving patients coming from all over the world.

If Dr. Peterson utilizes heavy duty drugs to strike a particular target ("a serious drug for a serious illness"), Dr. Cheney eschews this, leaning more in the direction of "terrain issues", the larger contextual field in which the illness pathology operates ("The microbe is nothing, the terrain is everything"). The language of Dr. Cheney does not intersect at all with Dr. Peterson's. With Dr. Cheney there is no mention of Valtrex, or Ampligen, or even Acyclovir. Instead, from Dr. Cheney we hear terms like bison cell-signalling factors, trophic factor, Vaso Intestinal Peptide, adult stem cells, MAF 314, GcMAF, BLAK water, Isoprinosine (Inosine) - all used variously in an effort to alter the terrain instead of directly striking an approximate or assumed target. When Dr. Cheney does bring out the "big guns" to attack a virus it is Artesunate or Colloidal Silver.

Dr. Cheney's ideas are presented in a lecture in another post on this site. The ideas presented in this lecture are totally fascinating. Dr. Cheney has a very individualistic diagnostic device in his IVRT echo machine, a device to which he is seriously tethered. So far very few people seem to be paying attention to Dr. Cheney's important diagnostic and treatment criteria. This is not understandable to me, this marginalization of perhaps the most acute and complex mind in the field. One hopes that Dr. Cheney's impressive work does not go in the direction of Dr. Jay Goldstein's.

While Dr. Cheney maintains a relatively withdrawn or private image (in spite of attending many conferences), he does have important interactions with various clinicians - for instance Dr. Shoemaker, Dr. De Meirleir, and many others outside of the typical ME/CFS arena.

Interestingly, Dr. Cheney also does not talk much about lyme disease. When he does, he is indecisive, as if he is unable to decide where this bacterial element resides in the larger picture.

These two physicians, these two "fathers of CFS" - Dr. Peterson and Dr. Cheney - represent the extremes. It is as if they are in an unspoken contest to get at this illness - from decidedly different directions, from poles as far apart as possible. The world created by the tension between these divergent approaches is totally fascinating. It is in the dynamism - the crunch - of these two approaches that progress is going to happen.

My conclusion, in watching the unfolding diagnosis and treatments in ME/CFS, is that more treatment discussions need to take place, particularly regarding this dynamic of drugs versus terrain modifications.  Many other clinicians - Guyer, Enlander, Klimas - live in the world in between, adopting items from both ends of the spectrum.

There is a great need to have conferences or retreats where treatments are discussed. Some clinicians give an indication of being able to play well in the playpen while others have not. This of course can present problems.

A treatment conference should be held inviting Shoemaker, Enlander, Cheney, Klimas, Peterson, Horowitz, Brewer, Chia, Lerner, Montoya, Bhakta, De Meirleir, Kogelnik, Mikovits and others. The Invest in ME format of one day for private discussions and one day for public lectures is decidedly the best. It would be important to first develop a clinical treatment protocol for newly diagnosed patients. (Additional attention should be given to the severely ill patients, who hold the key to this illness.) There are diagnostics and interventions that can be done now. If these clinicians waver in their confidence in being able to do this, I and other advocates and patients could give them some good starting points. Many of us have learned the hard way.

"Hanging Fire" – Dr. John Chia

I remember well the ME/CFS researcher Jonathan Kerr. Many people might not remember that he wrote a paper on enteroviral involvement in ME/CFS, a copy of which can be found here.

“The role of enterovirus infection as a trigger and perpetuating factor in CFS/ME has been recognized for decades.”

Soon after this, Jonathan Kerr "was disappeared" from ME/CFS research. I wonder where he is? I miss his efforts on our behalf. The more I think about his departure, the sadder I get. In the last few years we have lost a number of serious ME/CFS researchers. These losses have been distressing.

On a less disturbing note, we might put forth the idea that ME/CFS research has never been so broad and far-ranging as it is today. Some would say that we are making progress, and that hope stands right around the corner (probably leaning against a wall, whistling - or smoking a cigarette).

In this world of optimism, one astonishing item continues to be set aside or ignored: the enteroviral association with ME/CFS established by Dr. John Chia. Something needs to be done about this. Dr. John Chia's critical work should be put center stage. Dr. Chia holds in his hand a key to unlock a part of this illness.

Recently there has been a fine set of video interviews with this unsung hero of ME/CFS. Part one can be seen here with the others following. These interviews are conducted by Llewellyn King, who speaks with a knowledge and ease that is admirable. Llewellyn King’s series ME/CFSAlert has focused on many clinicians and researchers. However, this four-part interview with Dr. John Chia is the best. It is worth viewing these videos more than once - for the key points to sink in.

Ten years ago, Dr. Chia’s son Andrew became sick with what turned out to be ME/CFS. In his desire to help his son, Dr. Chia did what many smart people do - he turned to the past (history) - and studied the early literature of ME. Things fell into place for Dr. Chia as he reviewed the older, known connection of ME/CFS to enteroviruses. Enteroviruses fit the picture.

Early clinicians in the field, especially Ramsey and Richardson, suspected enteroviral involvement. This belief held particularly true in the UK, where the disease is known by its proper name - Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (ME). 

If one wants to get a real fright about the seriousness of this illness and what enteroviruses can do in the human body, read John Richardson’s “Enteroviral Medicated EncephalomyelitisSyndrome Pathologies”.

In time, the pursuit of an enteroviral association with ME/CFS lapsed. There are several reasons for this.

In 2007 Dr. Chia and his son Andrew Chia reignited this enteroviral idea and published a paper demonstrating a strong association of enteroviruses in ME/CFS.  The surprising and convincing aspect of their study was that they were looking at real human tissue – stomach biopsies. This is hardly ever done in ME/CFS research.

As a researcher/clinician, Dr. Chia has constructed a world of his own. He has gathered his profound insights through making no great new discovery. He has just connected the dots. His studies are the product of persistent, dogged effort. As he says, his work is not sexy. Dr. Chia and his son continue to build research into enteroviral involvement in ME/CFS.

Since his paper was published in 2007, no one has tried to substantiate or replicate his work. Why? How can his be?

Dr. Chia has left “something of significance” for us sitting on the table in plain view.  To get further with this it needs to be taken up by someone else. No thinking is involved. All it needs is the hard work of replication.

(InvestinME has done a great service in elevating Dr. Chia’s research. They invite him to speak each year. Unfortunately, his research efforts are at a standstill with his ideas gaining no traction. What is Dr. Chia supposed to do – replicate his own study?)

Anyone familiar with the research world of ME knows the implications of nailing down one corner of the illness through substantiating an association with an infectious agent.  Let me repeat that: if you nail down one corner of this illness with an infectious agent, you nail down the whole thing.

Instead, everyone wants to go in their own direction and solve this illness on their own. Is that the idea? - Everyone comes up with their own idea that will never be substantiated? Is this how real science is done today? Does the ME/CFS research world have to be that constricted?

Why doesn’t the Whittemore Peterson Institute (WPI), Mt Sinai ME/CFS Center, Ben Natelson, Peterson’s Simarron Research Foundation, Klimas’ Nova Institute for Neuroimmune Medicine, the Chronic Fatigue Initiative, Kolgenick’s Open Medicine, Jose Montoya at Stanford, or the CAA, step up to the plate and substantiate Dr. Chia's work?

The most likely person to pursue the enteroviral connection in ME/CFS is Ian Lipkin at Columbia. Lipkin has an inquisitive nature. I would be surprised if he is doing tissue biopsies, which seems the way to go.

It is time for someone to make a serious effort to replicate Dr. Chia’s work - and to find out what exactly it means. 

Nothing would get the government agencies or the drug companies interested faster than scientifically demonstrating a viral association to ME/CFS.

You can petition the government as long as you want but nothing will change until the science is built in a coherent fashion. Giving them a replicated study of Dr. John Chia’s work would be a very good first step. It would put a sudden halt to the research merry-go-round of the last twenty-five years. 

Whoever participates in this will get a very big feather in their cap.